When I post my daughters’ “real food” school lunch pictures on Facebook it often provokes a lot of questions. So here—all in one place—are some answers for ya! Now let’s just hope we can get all those with the questions to actually read this post :) If I left out any of the more common ones please let me know in the comments below…I know some of you are just as familiar with these daily school lunch questions as I am!
1. I’ve seen you updated your lunch boxes, where can I purchase one of those really cool ones?!
Yes, we’ve definitely upgraded our girls’ lunch boxes and bags. We used to use the Ziplock divided containers (see below), but now we use these new ones from Sistema. They fit so much food and fold up into to three different compartments. They can be found at Amazon, Walmart, or Target, and come in different colors.
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2. Where do you get those snazzy divided lunch containers that you used to use all the time? And what does the lunch look like after being tossed all around on the way to school? Don’t the yogurt and applesauce leak into the other compartments?
We actually own quite a few different lunch containers, but before we switched lunch boxes, I did find myself reaching for our BPA-free Ziplock divided containers most often. And there are two main reasons why—First, each compartment is truly leak-proof therefore liquids will stay put no matter how much the box is tossed around on the way to school, and secondly, they are lightweight and easy to wash and open (okay, I guess that is technically 3 more reasons—but we really liked these). Plus at the uber reasonable cost of $5+ for 2 containers, they are a great deal!
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The divided lunch containers can be purchased at…
– Amazon
– Target (stores only)
– Walmart (online and in stores)
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3. How do you keep your cut apples from turning brown (i.e. oxidizing)?
Here’s the deal—there are a few things you can do, but I actually don’t do anything. What I’ve learned (based on my own personal experience and no scientific data whatsoever) is that some apple varieties seem to brown much faster than others. For example, the Red Delicious apples I cut open tend to start turning brown within minutes. Honey Crisp, on the other hand (a seasonal apple that is a little harder to find), can sit in the fridge for days after being sliced and hardly change color. Maybe those apples are fresher and that makes a difference? I have honestly never spent very much time looking into it. So I simply go for the apples that either are or look kind of similar to Honey Crisp on the outside (like Gala), and when I do I find that I have better luck. I have tried putting lemon juice on our apple slices, but one day my poor daughter came home from school saying her apples tasted like “cleaning solution.”
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But if you choose to go the route of preventing oxidation regardless here are some options…
– Citrus: As I mentioned, I wouldn’t recommend straight up lemon juice so either water it down or go for something less offensive like orange juice or pineapple juice.
– Salt Water Bath: I have not personally tried this, but blog readers often tell me this works great.
– Cinnamon: This is another suggestion from my wonderful blog readers, but it will certainly change the apple slices from just being plain (I do think it would add a nice flavor though).
– Rubber-band: Surely we’ve all seen the image on Pinterest by now? Slice the whole apple then hold it back together with a rubber band until lunchtime. This would only work if you normally send the whole apple – and they would, of course, have to dispose of the core or just leave it in their lunch box.
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4. How do you keep cold items cold and hot items hot until lunchtime (my child doesn’t have access to a refrigerator or a microwave)?
I keep cold items cold by packing 3 or 4 small ice packs together with the lunch box in an insulated lunch bag (we use the “Soft Sided” lunch bags by Lands End because they fit both our lunch box and thermos cup nicely). I keep hot items hot (like soup, pasta, beans, etc.) by heating them up the morning before school and transferring them to a thermos container, which is designed to keep food hot for up to 5 hours (more on those details here). I don’t stress about packing hot and cold together, but I do try to keep them each on their own sides of the lunch bag when I do.
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5. Where is the protein??
We believe that part of eating a real food diet means not counting fat grams, calories, carbs, or even protein. Instead, you simply eat a variety of whole foods (without overeating) and the rest just falls into place. Other countries outside of the U.S. routinely follow this practice and don’t obsessively add up numbers like we do—plus all that calculating can sure take the enjoyment out of your meal in my opinion! But, if you still insist on counting up numbers anyway, please know it is rare for the average person who is eating a varied diet to have a protein deficiency. Please check out my “Why are Americans so concerned about protein?” post for more details.
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6. Are you really allowed to send peanuts and peanut butter in your daughter’s lunches? It’s not allowed at my child’s school—what can I pack instead?
Our entire school used to be nut-free, but a few years ago they changed it to just one “nut-free class” per grade level. When they were attending that school during that change, it was the first time I did not have a child in a nut-free class so it was the first time since my kids started elementary school that I could freely send peanuts, peanut butter, tree nuts, etc.—so, yes, I did just that. And just for the record, when we were in the nut-free class I took it very seriously and miraculously never “goofed” or forgot—but outside of those designated classrooms, the school never gave us a reason to believe there was an issue with us sending products containing peanuts or tree nuts.
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If your child does have an allergy or is in a nut-free class or school, some great alternatives to peanut butter are…
dfds-For tons of nut-free school lunch ideas, I’ve put together a list for you here and here, so you can check them out all in one place.
– Sunflower seed butter (be sure to check the package to make sure it wasn’t manufactured in a facility that also processes peanuts or tree nuts)
– Cream cheese
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7. Are the lunches you pack enough food for your kids? They look like they would be a small snack for my football-playing teenage son!
While I thank you for your concern I do pride myself in knowing my own children well enough to have a good understanding of their appetites. I am certainly not always spot on, but I do think I am pretty close most days. Not to mention we do think real food is much more filling than the processed stuff AND my daughters do both get a morning snack at school (usually oatmeal) as well as an afternoon snack when they get home—in addition to a standard breakfast and dinner of course. Long story short, I can assure you that everyone is well fed at our house. When my daughters were only 6 and 8-years-old, I would never expect the amount of lunch that is right for them to also be right for a 6-ft tall teenage boy (or even an extra hungry younger child) so please feel free to simply use our lunch ideas for guidance and supplement or switch things up for your own kids as necessary. I personally think leftover dinners would be a great way to fill up hungrier kids.
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8. When you pack items that you’ve previously made and frozen (like soup, muffins, waffles, homemade uncrustables, etc.) how and when do you defrost them?
Since I am in the habit of packing my kids lunches the day before, I almost always pull out frozen items the night before as well. I usually allow items to defrost in the fridge overnight—which is required for soups and such—but bread-like items that are not already packed with perishable items are fine defrosting on the counter by themselves. Sometimes I forget or just decide to add a frozen muffin at the last minute on the morning of school and, even so, it is still defrosted and totally edible by lunchtime. For more on this topic check out my list of 10 Recipes to Make and Freeze for School Lunches.
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9. There is no way I could get my picky kid to eat the items you pack in your lunches—any advice?
Right off the bat – the fact that you are here reading a real food school lunch post is a great start! I say get your kids involved in deciding what to pack. But, please remember, it is our job as parents to give them the right choices. For example, don’t ask if they want organic cheese cubes or Cheetos—ask if they want cheese cubes or sliced apples! Lots of blog readers tell me that they sit down with their kids and look at my school lunch pictures together so their child can easily point out what real food items they’d like to have in their lunch (love this idea!). For even more tips be sure to check out my blog post all about winning over your picky eater. And most importantly…be sure to use gentle persistence and don’t give up on them!
10. Where do you get those amazing looking bagels?… and where can I find whole-wheat pitas?
I get this question almost every time I share a photo of them! I wish they were available everywhere, but I purchase them from a local bakery here in NC called Poppyseeds. When I make my girls sandwiches using pitas, I grab a bag from Trader Joes!
11. When do you make baked goods?
I make most baked goods (like muffins and pancakes) in advance and store them in our freezer. So when I am packing school lunches the night before I just pull out what I need so it can defrost in the fridge overnight. Almost all of the recipes I used can be found on the blog…just use the search box at the top right of the page to find what you are looking for!
I hope this post helps to clear some things up…please feel free to leave additional questions in the comments below.
My family uses “Apple Fresh” and it works great. And it’s all natural, we love it!
http://www.jpsfoods.com/apple-fresh/
A great way to keep apples from turning brown…..Trader Joe’s (and other stores) sell Vitamin C crystals (basically just ascorbic acid)in a large container for about $10. I mix about a half a teaspoon into a bowl of water and swish the apple slices around. The container has lasted me over a year now.
I was wondering what you though about having entrees in the school lunches. You aways seem to have a sandwich, soup, etc., but is it all right if you find it easier to have many small things in your meal?
Yes, Abigail. Whatever works best for you and your kids as long as they are balanced healthy options. :) ~Amy
In regards to your child’s class not being nut free, I’m assuming there are kids in the school that still have an allergy to nuts, and so it would be beyond awesome of you to not send nut products anyways. Just because your school has given you no reason to believe that what you are sending is not OK, the peanut butter may still be on your kids hands when they leave their room from lunch and another child could have a very serious, and life threatening reaction from say, using the water fountain or opening a door, after your child. I have 2 kids with nut allergies and I am so far beyond frustrated with the schools lack of EDUCATION to everyone in the school. It is a simple thing to send something other than a food that could kill a child.
“This would only work if you normally send the whole apple – and they would of course have to dispose of the core or just leave it in their lunch box.”
Nope :) You can eat just about the entire darn apple (probably should avoid the seeds. I was shocked when I first learned that, but then I tried it–no big deal, it doesn’t even taste bad. I know a lot of kids probably won’t want to eat the core (it’s a texture thing–I have similar issues with ice cream, believe it or not), but it’s possible to do so.
Maybe my cupcake liners were too small! I don’t think they touched the top. I’ll have to look for new ones.
I see you use cupcake liners to put crackers, cookies, etc into your daughters lunches. I also use the ziplock containers like you do. I tried it the other day and my kids said their cookies (annies graham bunnies) spilled out all over and got soggy. How do you keep the food in the cupcake liner without spilling?
Mindy, are you using the large/jumbo cupcake liners? The top of the liner should be touching the container lid once you put it on. I found mine I. The dollar bin at Target 2/$1.
Hi Mindy. Dora is right. Lisa uses the jumbo size in the Ziplock containers. ~Amy
Have you dealt with any peer pressure issues? Like, “I want to eat what my friends eat” or “I get made fun of for bringing my lunch”? Just curious how you handle this.
Thanks!
Hi Bridget. Any mom that puts an emphasis on sending healthier food to school where that is not necessarily the norm might get a little push back from their own kids or the kid’s peers. I’ve just made sure my boys understand that food is fuel and that it is important to fuel your body with the foods that make it run well and make them feel well. If you allow room for choice and occasional treats, they will be less likely to feel deprived. Both of my boys have watched Jamie Oliver’s Ted Talk: http://www.ted.com/talks/jamie_oliver.html and have not asked for a school lunch since. :) ~Amy
Lisa, I LOVE your school lunch posts! Thanks so much for taking the time to answer these FAQs & thanks, as well, for linking to all previous relevant posts. I love the idea of your readers looking at the photos of your daughters’ lunches with their kids – I may have to follow their lead!
I love the yearly school lunch reminders. I’m still getting the hang of it, so refreshers on ideas are always helpful. I remind myself it’s a discipline that we are learning, it will take practice! Also, just have to say it’s good to hear of parents taking nut allergies seriously. My daughter is severely allergic to peanuts, walnuts, pistachios, and cashews. SEVERELY. Like 5 minutes and she better have epinephrin. While these allergenic children are so young and still learning their bodies response (like, oh! my throat is scratchy, I need fresh air & water and benadryl quickly), it’s so important to give them safe places. It’s different as an adult because you know those little tingles & sensations that your body has when it’s feeling an allergy and you can act super quick! Children might question it or ignore it until it’s too late. Scary as a parent sending your child into a building you know has a product that is life threatening. I tell parents when they ask what that’s like…pretend like you send your child in with something else like poison or anthrax or something very dangerous. That’s how it feels. And then the flip side is these children don’t want to feel like they are keeping others from enjoying their favorite foods either. Love that schools are educating on it these days and taking it seriously!
Hi Lisa,
I love your tips and was wondering where you got your cute paper toothpicks with pinwheels or animals. Thank you
Hi Sherrie. You can find some of them here: https://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2012/08/24/my-favorite-school-lunch-supplies/. ~Amy
I put apple slices in a little bit of sprite or tonic water to keep them from turning brown.
We use the Eco Lunch stainless steel lunch bento box. Much better than the plastic ziplock container.
I’ve considered those as well. But, I’m afraid of juices spilling from one compartment to another. Have you had any problems with this?
Here is a great tip to stop apples from turning brown: use a ceramic knife! I bought one for my Dad and he loves it.
http://www.myceramicknives.com/my-30-day-test/ceramic-knives-keep-apples-fresh
Hi! I was wondering if anyone had found the ziplock divided containers at Target this year? I’ve been to two locations with no luck. Help! Thanks.
I just bought some yesterday at Target. In Florida… :)
My local Target doesn’t have them either. I have found them in the past at Wal Mart and my local Fry’s grocery store. You can also find them on Amazon.
you can get them on Amazon
Walmart & online
I searched and searched and finally found a Target in my area (SoCal) that had them. Could be some are just out for some time before able to restock.
I found mine in the grocery store in the food-storage aisle. We live in the Carolinas and I believe it was at Food Lion.
We love our divided containers! Since my husband, two college students, a high school student and I are all taking our lunches, we just line them up on the counter with soft-sided lunch bags and ice packs in the mornings and everybody packs their own. (A big “Thanks” to this site for all the helpful tips!!!)
I love this blog! Thanks so much for all the great ideas. I am actually looking forward to packing lunch this year for my 7 and 5 year old. I showed them the pictures and had them pick what they thought they might like. Thanks Again!!
I love your website! Great Information! My daughter just started pre-k this year and she loves bringing her “real food” lunches to school. Thank you for all of the great ideas and recipes.
Just snagged the ziplock containers at target. Woohoo! Didn’t even know they existed. Awesome affordable bento boxes. Love them!
Thanks for the link to the bags that fit the ziplock containers. My daughter decided that her laptop lunch bag was too “little girlish”
Kroger and Publix (both U.S. grocery store chains) also carry the Ziploc divided containers. I don’t have easy access to whole food types of stores and the farmers’ markets near me seem to sell everything but produce so I am able to make do as best as I can with regular stores. :)
I was inspired to get the Ziploc containers (and Land’s End lunchbag) because of your posts! I am packing lunches for the first time this year. My daughter’s only complaints so far: 1) One day, I packed too much food (the Ziploc was almost bursting, and she brought about 1/3 of the food back home), 2) she wants her “snack” to be packed separately.
My only complaint is that the very first day of school, the Ziploc’s lid got broken. Good thing we have 3 more!
By the way, I got my Ziplocs on drugstore.com. Right now, they’re $4 for a 2-pack.
Hummus is another alternative to peanut butter and is very easy to make! My son’s school doesn’t have a cafeteria so we pack every day. It is nice because I can totally control what he eats. He rarely ever complains about what I put in his lunch and eats such a nice variety of foods that I don’t have to stress too much about what I pack. He likes sandwiches he can assemble himself (my healthy version of lunchables). He will also eat leftovers as there is a microwave for the kids to use. I have really enjoyed all the ideas for lunches that everyone has shared and have added some of them to our lunch menu. Thanks!!!
We have been using the ziplock containers since the start of this school year and love them. My kids are particular about their cold stuff staying cold, and in this Florida heat even ice packs can’t keep the food as cold as they want it. I freeze yogurt and applesauce overnight in the smaller portion cups of the divided container, I don’t have to add any ice packs at all and the food is perfectly defrosted and super cold by lunch time!
I bought the Ziploc divided containers at Raley’s last week. One of the containers ended up broken in both the small compartments on the first day of use. Anyone else have this problem?
Amy – I can’t speak for others, but the containers usually last the whole school year for us. If you freeze them they can become brittle so be careful with that. I wonder if yours were slightly damaged before you got them? Also not sure what you’re packing them in, but the soft sided lunchboxes provide protection during transit.
Never had that problem. Knock on wood. My kindergartner used the same two all last year and is now reusing them in first grade. Two was perfect, because there was always a clean one ready to go for the next days lunch.
So thankful for your bog. Found it last year & have been packing adult size versions of your lunche ideas for me & my husband. Keep up the important work!
Biscoff is, I believe, nut free. Am I correct? If not, I’ve been doing myself some possible harm.
Hi Suzi. Here is a link to their FAQs and nutrition label: http://www.biscoff.com/discover/faqhttp://www.biscoff.com/discover/nutrition-facts and http://www.biscoff.com/discover/nutrition-facts. ~Amy
Soaking apple slices in grape juice (DIY Grapples!) works great, as does soaking banana chunks in orange juice. Wonderful post, Lisa!
Our first week of lunch packing for our first kindergartener is coming to a successful close. I bought and used all the things you specified. So, for the direction: many thanks! I have come up with some questions for clarification though.
How do you get the smoothie pop to bend into the Zip Lock container? I was trying to be gentle, but I tore our smoothie pop mold on day one! Also, what size silicone cupcake molds do you use? Large, small? I have the standard Wilton silicone cups and they seem a bit small to hold anything.
I also don’t understand how you fit so much into your child’s lunch bag. This morning I sent a ziplock compartment container and a thermos, the 10oz Foogo. It was very difficult to fit them both in. I ended up putting the thermos on top of the ziplock and luckily it zipped up. Is my model of soft sided lunchbag different than yours?
I would like to understand what you mean when you say 3-4 ice packs in the bag. I can understand one sheet underneath and one sheet in the mesh pocket in the main compartment of the soft sided lunchbag, but I can’t see how you get 3 or 4.
Would you also recommend utensils that are appropriate, yet not too expensive in case they get lost?
I have two things to offer: I put cubed avocado with a touch of sea salt in the silicone muffin cup and my son loved it. Also, in the morning, the cold and frozen parts are assembled at about 6am. They leave for school around 7am. My son prefers the pops to be pops, not smoothies, so I put it all together and put the ziplock container in the freezer. Everything had a great chill and the pop has stayed frozen enough to be a popsicle at lunch (11:20ish) and it was very simple to grab and put in the bag at the last minute.
Hi Tashina –
Glad your first week was successful! Here are answers:
1) I usually “break up” the smoothie pop a little bit by moving it up and down across the edge of the counter. Then it easily bends into shape.
2) While we own standard and jumbo, we usually use the jumbo sized muffin liners since they go all the way to the top of the ziploc container and keep things separated.
3) When we send soup or something else in the wide thermos food jar, we don’t use the ziploc container. Take a look at the lunches in this school lunch roundup and you’ll see what I mean. https://www.100daysofrealfood.com/2012/09/04/school-lunch-roundup-ii/.
We have noticed slight variations with the lunchbags, but they’ve all fit the thermos water bottle. Sometimes we put it in the outside (side) mesh compartment, sometimes in the main compartment, and sometimes in the smaller compartment on the bag’s top. It just depends on which bag and what’s packed that day.
4) You can cut the sheets of ice packs into different shapes. We may use say a 3×3 sheet on the top and bottom and maybe a 1×4 on each side.
5) We have a 2nd set of cheap (but still stainless steel) silverware we send in the girls’ lunches. That way it’s no big deal if they lose a piece here and there. We’re not concerned if they match :) I don’t remember where we got them…probably Target or Walmart.
Thanks for the suggestions! I love it when readers offer up good ideas. – Jason
We have a set of stainless steel silverware that was our old set we just kept 2 sets for each of us. Also in the past I have picked up sets at the thrift store and washed in the dishwasher a couple times before using.
i bought a set of stainless silverware (i think it was 4 forks, 4 spoons, and 4 knives) at Target for under $5. I also bought two BPA free plastic plates at Target. I keep all of this in my cubicle at work and then if I need them they are there. The only tricky part is remembering to wash everything right away so nothing gets crusty. If for some reason I can’t get the silverware clean I take it home for the weekend and run it through my dishwasher. I also have two or three cups that I rotate in and out for water. Usually I bring one in on Monday and then take it home on Friday for a good washing – since it only holds water I just rinse it out during the week.
The easiest way to get your smoothie pops to bend is to freeze them that way. I place all 4 molds bent into an empty yogurt tub, fill molds leaving space at the top, cap, then place the tub into the freezer. The molds should be bent enough to place directly in a ziplock container.
For cheap stainless steel silverware, try St. Vincent Depaul, Goodwill or other thrift store. The silverware might be mismatched, but that’s half the fun. Plus, you will be reusing instead of creating more waste by buying new.
For those who need to feed older children or adults: I copy the lunch ideas for my own (adult size) lunch. I just increase the portion sizes or sometimes swap things around based on what I have available in the fridge that week. These lunch ideas are more inspiration and ideas for me rather than exact recipes and since copying these ideas (rather than buying my lunch like I did before I started eating real foods) I look forward to eating lunch each day. Thanks Lisa for sharing your children’s lunches with us!
Just wanted to express my deep gratitude for all of the lunchbox ideas. My son just started kindergarten and I never would have attempted “cold lunch” without the wealth of advice and ideas from your site. Just as you said, I showed him your pictures, he pointed out things that looked good (including some very healthy surprises) and so far it’s going great!
I copy your lunches and ideas all the time. I have found that one if the things that helps my kids “buy-in” to eating real foods is letting them pick from our “lunch planner”. It is just a printed list of choices in 3 columns and they have to pick at least 1 or 2 things from the first column (fruits/veggies) and 2nd column (whole grains, proteins, etc.) And the 3rd column is optional (has some of the saltier/sweeter options, but still not bad). I laminated one for each day of the week, connected them on a ring and they use a dry erase marker to circle their choices. This also helps me make my grocery list because I have them do it a week in advance.
That is seriously awesome and I am totally stealing it!
LOVE this idea. Now to find the time to duplicate…lol
I’ve noticed the same about apple varieties. Red delicious I think are the worst for browning.
I have to say that I love all of the tips you give about lunches and the lunch boxes! I don’t have children, but use all of your tips and such for packing my lunches and dinners to go to work! I work long hours and don’t want to just grab things at fast food or restaurants. I began using some of your tips and one of my favorites is the peanut butter and apple “sandwiches” which I make and stash at work for snacks! Allison commented about using lemonade for the apples and this is something I have done for a long time! I mix raspberries and lemons with spring water and a small amount of agave nectar to make lemonade. I put a dash of it on my sliced apples and it not only tastes great it keeps the apples fresh!
Thank you for all your suggestions as the lunch box tips helps out us adults too! :)
I soak the apple slices in 1T of lemon juice combined with 1C of water. My son hasn’t complained. I doubled the mix and am keeping it in a glass bowl in the fridge to use several times.
That is great about the apples, I might start experimenting! My daughter will only eat green apples which are obviously a little tart. I keep a jug of lemonade (and hide it in the back of the fridge) and use that to splash on her apples, it sweetens them up a little and they stay perfectly white until lunch..
This post is in response to the apples turning brown. A good solution for this is to soak them in pineapple juice and strain before eating. I find this to be one of the best solutions and the apple still taste crisp and delicious.
Watch Amazon for the ziploc containers! I ordered them a week ago and got 4 for $6 with prime. They’ve now gone up to $12 (no longer on prime) but things change all of the time! My advice is to make sure you have enough to pack a weeks worth of lunches if possible! I just am responsible for my own lunch, but as a med school student, I only get time on the weekends to do it! My lunches look a lot like Lisa’s kids, but with more food, because it’s usually breakfast, lunch and dinner!!
Dear Lisa,
I’m Kim from the Netherlands and I must say I love reading your blog.
You are a great inspiration to me on eating real food.
Next week ( 2nd of September) we start school again and I am dying to try out some of your lunches..
I hope my son will love them.
Thank you!
Thank you so much Kim. I am glad you are enjoying the blog…good luck with the start of school! :)
I am new to your Blog and I am loving it..You have given me so many great ideas for my 2 year old’s lunch. I wanted to let you know that I recently bought the fantastic Ziploc container on amazon, 4 for $7.96. I love a good deal!
Thanks for sharing Kelly! We used to share the amazon link you are talking about, but some people were caught off-guard that it is actually a 4-pack (instead of a 2-pack), and I think at one point they were even sold out briefly. I am glad you were able to find a good deal though. I personally like having 4 of the boxes because sometimes I’ll start packing the next day’s lunch before they are even home from school yet with their containers (that’s on a really good day of course). Thanks for reading the blog!
I saw a questions about the apples and how to keep them from browning and thought I would tell you what I do.
I slice them up of course and then soak them for about 3 minutes in store bought lemon juice. Then I rinse them with cold filtered water a few times and dry with paper towels before putting them in the dish. I prefer the organic lemon juice, it just seems to work better when it’s organic, I don’t know why, but it’s harder to find.
Now I don’t think that this method will keep them good for more than a day, but my daughter does seem to prefer her apple slices when I do this rather than when I just slice them up and do nothing. Hope that helps someone :-)
I’m looking on Amazon but can’t find these. Would love the link if someone has it handy!
Hi Shari. The price on Amazon changes all the time. Right now they are $6.78 for 2. The Walmart link we provided in the post is $5.14. I can’t find the 4 pack at all. Sorry. ~Amy
The last tip is great. My oldest daughter is so picky, so I include her lunch food shopping and packing.